If you are on Academic Probation and continue to fail classes the school can kick you out and the VA will stop any future GI Bill payments at ANY school until you prove to them that you can successfully complete your classes. On the other hand, if you drop the class you can end up owing the VA thousands of dollars and that can be pretty messy.
Despite struggling with a class and the anxiety that follows, you can fail a class and still maintain your GI Bill benefits. However, there are a few decisions to make and conversations with the administration to help you decide the next steps. You should first evaluate your academic standing.
For example: You are using the Post-9/11 GI Bill, get $1,500 a month housing allowance as a full-time student, and your classes cost $300 per credit hour. Three months into the term you drop 2 classes. This will change your training time from full-time to 1/2 time.
If you have the GI Bill benefits, you work with your school to verify your benefits. Colleges have a School Certifying Official (SCO) that represents the school and has the training to certify enrollment with the Department of Veterans Affairs.
Since this grade counts towards your graduation progress you are not required to repay any GI Bill money you received for that class. And, according to the VA, you may take the class again in an attempt to receive credit towards graduation or raise your grade for it and you may receive GI Bill payment for the retaking of the class.
If you failed a required course or did not receive the minimum grade considered “passing” (for example, you received a C- in the course but need a C or better to actually receive credit), the VA will pay for you to repeat the course.
If I fail a class, will the GI Bill® still pay? May I retake a class to improve my grade? If you fail a class, credits to repeat the class can be re-certified. You can use your benefits to improve a grade only if the grade you received is not acceptable under your program.
If you are using any GI Bill® besides the Post-9/11 GI Bill® or Fry Scholarship, the VA bases your monthly payment on your training time. If your withdrawal moves you from one group to another you will have an overpayment with the VA that you must repay.
This depends on when you were discharged from active duty. If your service ended before January 1, 2013, your Post-9/11 GI Bill (Chapter 33) benefits will expire 15 years after your last separation date from active service. You must use all of your benefits by that time or you'll lose whatever's left.
What happens if I fail or drop a course? Failing a course will not affect your GI Bill benefits; however, withdrawing or receiving an incomplete grade for a course may affect your benefits. As long as you receive a grade (pass or fail), the VA will not ask for money back.
If you fail a class, you'll get a 0 on your transcript — and that can bring down your GPA. Failed classes count toward your GPA, though some colleges do not count pass/fail classes in your GPA calculation. If you get an F, you still have to pay for the class without receiving any credit toward your degree.
To be eligible for benefits, the student must maintain a cumulative grade point average of at least 2.0 (C) to meet the minimum standard for satisfactory academic performance. In addition, the student must complete 66 percent of all courses attempted.
Normally if you drop a class you will have to pay back any GI Bill money you received for that class to the VA. This includes your tuition & fee payment (even though it was paid to the school - not you), your Monthly Housing Allowance, your book stipend, and any kicker or college fund money you received.
Overpayments may occur due to an error at the VA. They simply may have overpaid you or forgot to change your status from married to single, for example. However, if you intentionally give false information to the VA or do not report changes, this can lead to overpayments and also a termination of benefits.
If you're a current or former member of the Reserves or National Guard, you must have been called to active duty by a federal order and completed the full period for which you were called or ordered to active duty. If you had or have active-duty status for training purposes only, you don't qualify for VA health care.
Answer: Yes, like the MGIB you are generally entitled to 36 months of educational assistance. If you are entitled to more than one GI Bill program you may be eligible for a maximum of 48 months of entitlement when using benefits under two or more GI Bill programs.
Fact #1 - You May Have No Time Limit On Using Your GI Bill 1, 2013 you have no time limit on using your GI Bill. Those discharged prior to that and using the Montgomery GI Bill have 10 years from their discharge date to use all their GI Bill or they lose it.
If you are on Academic Probation and continue to fail classes the school can kick you out and the VA will stop any future GI Bill payments at ANY school until you prove to them that you can successfully complete your classes.
This means that the grade you receive counts in your overall degree progress, albeit negatively.
A " non-punitive grade " is a grade that doesn't earn credit towards your degree. For example, if you drop a class and get no credit for it, you are getting what is known as a "non-punitive grade. So, since you get no credit, the VA will come after you to get any GI Bill payment you received for that class back from you.
If you don't attend, you don't get any money. If you stop attending class, the VA will stop your GI Bill payments retroactive to the beginning date of the term. You will most likely end up owing a lot of money to both the VA and the school.
Since this grade counts towards your graduation progress you are not required to repay any GI Bill money you received for that class. And, according to the VA, you may take the class again in an attempt to receive credit towards graduation or raise your grade for it and you may receive GI Bill payment for the retaking of the class.
The VA doesn't care if you fail a class, nope they won't come after you for the money you got. In fact they will let you retake that class as many times as you need to until you get a passing grade, and they will pay you each time. Sounds pretty unlike the VA doesn't it?
If you withdraw during the school's drop/add period (generally the first 30 days of a term), and dropping a class changes your training time, the VA will reduce your training time and any make the pay adjustment effective on the date of your withdrawal. This may or may not result in an overpayment.
So, if you have to drop a class because of a valid reason, the VA will possibly pay you through your drop date. Remember, the VA keeps all your information on file and they are stewards of public funds.
The VA realizes that sometimes you need to drop a class and for this reason they have something called "the six credit hour exclusion". Basically, your first withdrawal (up to six credit hours) is excused. The VA will adjust your training time on the date of withdrawal, not all the way back to the start of the term. This can only be used once, and you can't combine two 3 hour withdrawals to game the system. If you drop 3 hours and get the exclusion it is gone forever.
If you withdraw after the school's drop/add period the VA will reduce your training time on the beginning date of the term. This will usually result in an overpayment which can be quite large.
The VA calls these things "mitigating circumstances", in fact they list several on their website: An illness or injury afflicting the student during the enrollment period.
Unanticipated active military service, including active duty for training. Unanticipated difficulties with childcare arrangements the student has made for the period during which he or she is attending classes. When the VA is told of your withdrawal they will ask you if you have mitigating circumstances for your drop.
An unavoidable change in the student’s conditions of employment. An unavoidable geographical transfer resulting from the student’s employment. Immediate family or financial obligations beyond the control of the claimant that require him or her to suspend pursuit of the program of education to obtain employment.
This means that the grade you receive counts in your overall degree progress, albeit negatively.
Post 9/11 is a completely different policy. Under post 9/11 books are paid for (up to $1,000 per year), tuition is paid, and there is a housing allowance equivalent to the E-5 rate with dependents (regardless of actual rank) based on your zip code of residence at the time you are enrolled in school.
Depending on the University, it may be possible to have the class waived (at no expense to the service member) pending the failure is the result of mitigating circumstances. That’s the first class. Usually, if you fail another one, you will have to pay for sure, before you can sign up for more classes.
Since this grade counts towards your graduation progress you are not required to repay any GI Bill money you received for that class. You may take the class again in an attempt to receive credit towards graduation or raise your grade for it and you may receive GI Bill payment for the retaking of the class.
1606 and 30 do not have a housing or book allowance and only pay for tuition. There are different stipulations for eligibility in any of the programs. If you take your post 9/11 you are required to give up your eligibility for one of the other programs.
Honestly, I completely understand why veterans get out and decide to kill themselves after a few years… After countless horrible exchanges with the VA about claims or help that is never going to come it is literally just inevitable death by 1000 bureaucratic paper cuts… I am not suicidal but I do not begrudge those veterans who are as I am much more aware of why some vets decide to just end it as opposed to continue on dealing with bureaucratic red tape and nightmares that is the VA, VSO’s, or whatever low bid shit evaluation service they contract out to..
I don't know if its just me but I've always wanted to strike up a conversation with an older veteran especially one that was in my unit/division.
I’m noticing more and more guys who I was deployed with lying about their time in service on social media. Guys claiming ranger or sniper when we were just regular infantrymen. Another guy saying he was on two tours when he really did just one. I can only imagine the made up stories some of these guys are saying to people in the real world.
This is a repost but I've seen an uptick in this so figured I'd share again.
If you withdraw during the school's drop/add period (generally the first 30 days of a term) the VA will reduce your training time (and any payment as described above) on the date of your withdrawal. This may or may not result in an overpayment.
The VA realizes that sometimes you need to drop a class and for this reason they have something called "the six credit hour exclusion". Basically, your first withdrawal (up to six credit hours) is excused. The VA will adjust your training time on the date of withdrawal, not all the way back to the start of the term. This can only be used once, and you can't combine two 3 hour withdrawals to game the system. If you drop 3 hours and get the exclusion it is gone forever.
If you withdraw after the school's drop/add period the VA will reduce your training time on the beginning date of the term. This will usually result in an overpayment which can be quite large.